Posts by Slidin Fast

This is dynamite. There is an instruction for a set contribution per head per month for the "world wide work". The link apparently contains a multiplier that we don't yet have.

This looks like compulsory tithing to me, Where is the voluntary contribution system?

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BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)

by Atlantis in

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body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.

two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.

the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.

Slidin Fast

Atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years. Two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.

The gestapo had eyes everywhere but who won?

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UK Bethel COs New Lock Down

by Slidin Fast in

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i hear that all wt payroll personal in the uk are now in full lockdown/sheilding mode until november..

Slidin Fast

I hear that all WT payroll personal in the UK are now in full lockdown/sheilding mode until November.

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How about this from a recent wt.

by New day in

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2020600.

Slidin Fast

Note the picture of Rutherford riding a camel in Egypt. He looks looks part of a crew having a holiday on expenses.

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Another Unnecessary Early Death

by Slidin Fast in

a young man in somerset in england, under massive pressure from financial and relationship issues lapsed into mental illness.

he was unlucky enough to have as his support system the local congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

one of the symptoms of his illness was the use of tobacco.

Slidin Fast

I don't blame the elders, as you say they have very little wriggle room. It's the unloving framework of pharisaic rules they work under that is reprehensible.

However, as well as being elders each of those men are human with their own consciences. We do have agency however much the ORG tries to take that away from us.

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Another Unnecessary Early Death

by Slidin Fast in

a young man in somerset in england, under massive pressure from financial and relationship issues lapsed into mental illness.

he was unlucky enough to have as his support system the local congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

one of the symptoms of his illness was the use of tobacco.

Slidin Fast

A young man in Somerset in England, under massive pressure from financial and relationship issues lapsed into mental illness. He was unlucky enough to have as his support system the local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. One of the symptoms of his illness was the use of tobacco. So in the rigid unloving way of the organisation he was offered tough love, he was disfellowshipped.

The result? He was found hanging from a tree a park in Bristol, there to attend a JW assembly.

Is this news? Hardly, to us. Can we be sure he wouldn't have done it anyway? Of course not. But for me, this is another stitch in the blanket, evidence that WT is an unloving, uncaring organisation lacking anything approaching real love.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/jehovahs-witnesses-disowned-27-year-4370866

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Unbelievable Freddie Franz Admissions

by Vanderhoven7 in

unbelievable admissions.. freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.. https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

Slidin Fast

Smoking gun.

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Galaxies and 49000 years

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

now today this is of course a non-issue.

the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.

in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.

Slidin Fast

.and virtually all the theological assumptions anchored on the premise that it did effectively go out the window.

Just to labour Vidiot's point a bit...

Here's the unassailable problem for the WT. It's bible chronology.

The WT absolutely did not make up the bible date of C 4026 BC for the "creation" of Adam, you can trace it in scripture. So, no matter how they fudge the length of creative days, they can't fudge bible chronology. They are stuck with it. Imagine if they tried, the whole house of cards collapses. It follows then that they have to maintain the creation of Adam myth and stick their chin out on that however much they give ground else where.

I think that this is the biggest foundational weakness in the whole Jenga pile. If you disprove that date then everything collapses. Jesus refers to a literal Adam, the ransom depends on a literal Adam, the web of dates and predictions depends on infallible bible chronology.

Then hot dang, we go and prove man was around to make cave paintings far too early, we find evidence of human existence way back when. The bible story collapses and WT doctrine cannot morph into an Armageddon threat free, date free religion. Without Adam, it just collapses.